You’re listening to KABC 790. Unite and Heal America with your host Matt Matern and my guest today, Mayor Rex Parris and the city of Lancaster. Rex’s background trial attorneys extraordinaire, has now been the mayor of Lancaster for a number of years. I met Rex back at the Jerry Spence trial college years ago, at where he was an instructor.

I know Rex has been involved in a ton of cases. But one in particular, I thought was pretty interesting was going up against the city of Santa Monica, for voting rights issues. And their failure to really take into consideration Latino voting rights in the city of Santa Monica, as I recall. Rex, great to have you on the program. And thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

Maybe you could tell us in a nutshell I that case about the city of Santa Monica, how that one played out?

Well, it’s in front of the California Supreme Court now. You know, we wanted in the trial court, and then it was the second district court of appeals didn’t agree with the trial court. And hopefully the California Supreme Court is going to agree with.

Right, well, good luck with the California Supreme Court. So how did you get drawn into politics?

You know, I’ve been on the periphery of it for about 40 years. Primarily, you know, I just enjoyed it, you want to know the truth. I mean, there wasn’t any real real I enjoyed the the local politics and and Lancaster, Palmdale area. And then, about 12 years ago.

Well, I guess I should go back a little further. My wife, you know, I talked to her about running for mayor 2030 years ago. And we reached an agreement that we will wait until the kids are out of the house. And so when Cale went off to college, then I decided to run. She had forgotten about that deal. By the way, she wasn’t real happy about it.

Well, so then what? What started you campaigning environmental causes was that before or after you were elected mayor.

You know, it’s actually afterwards, when when I, before I became mayor, I was I was pretty much, you know, believing the conservative mantra, Mantra, Mantra Mantra, anyway, that, you know, it was just cyclic. And this was just a cycle we were going through. You know, and, like, like most people, if you don’t really put a lot of energy into understanding an issue, you tend to take the easiest explanation. I mean, first of all, it being a cycle site is totally absurd.

You know, a cycle means it’s predictable. And, you know, the reason for it, you know, and in fact, climate is cyclic, and we should be getting colder right now. And it has to do with the orbits of Uranus, Venus. And I think it’s Jupiter, but those are the primary influencing factors. And, you know, it’s, but it’s amazing to me how, how easy it is to accept it is absurd reason.

Right? Well, I can say, similarly, I was somewhat concerned about the environment back in the 80s, when I became a Republican, but the Republican Party wasn’t completely turning its back to the environment, George HW Bush signed into law, the Clean Air Act amendment, which was a big improvement and things of that nature.

So it was only probably in the last 10 to 20 years that the Republican Party started turning more away from environmental issues and became even more associated with industry positions. So and, and as I studied it further, I started to see there, there’s obviously real climate change when when you have something like 19 of the 20 hottest years on record right in a row. You begin to think there’s something going wrong. We got a problem.

Well, I think that it’s you know, it’s it’s The biggest threat facing our planet ever. I mean, right, right now there’s so much carbon in the CO2 in the environment. The last time it was like this, there were alligators in northern Canada. The the only reason we don’t have that happening now is because the oceans active the heatsink. And it takes a while for them to warm, but they are warming. Once they do warm, it’ll be 1000 years before they cool.

And you know, it’s got if we have enough time. It you know, I’m not I’m not convinced we do. But it’s it’s a very short window we’re now looking at. And, you know, I’ve spoke all over the world on climate extinction. And that’s, you know, and it was actually Frank Luntz, you know, the Republican pollster who came up with that terminology, climate extinction, because it really captures what we’re talking about. You know, we’re talking about the extinction of the human race.

The end, every time I speak, I always ask, is there anybody in this room that can see a way? If we had the political will? If the entire world was motivated to do something about this? Is there a way to do something about this? Nobody ever raises their hand. I think that would change. Now. There’s been some major advances in regards to hydrogen. And I do see a possibility. But we have to act quickly.

Well, I second that thought I’m a big hydrogen proponent, I was kind of going back to an earlier thought you comment you had made about the level of CO2 in the atmosphere and how we haven’t seen that since there were alligators in Canada? Well, Exxon had done a study back in the 80s, where they predicted that we would have 400, and some parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere, and we have climate change. So they knew it was coming.

And yet they did nothing to to help us mitigate it. And in fact, did the reverse of telling, then putting out studies questioning climate change, when they had already studied it knew that it was coming. And they were part of the problem, which is, you know, kind of shocking in the extreme but corporate misbehavior at the highest level.

It’s astonishing to me how we can, how we can be you know, we become affiliated with a group and then the, the, the goals of that group become our goals, even though you know, these are these are normal, educated human beings in it’s their grandchildren that are going to die. If this isn’t fixed, and yet they behave that way anyway. You know, the, it’s kind of interesting last year, before COVID, I was awarded the green power leader by the EPA, for the for the nation.

And the conference was primarily funded by Sempra and and so they paid for my trophy. But with within the past year before that, twice, I had been listed as the keynote speaker and Sempra has withdrew their funding if they didn’t get rid of it. And, and it’s, it’s as important and the reason I bring that up is because it’s not just XR. It’s you know, Southern California gas, which is a subsidiary of Sempra. It’s all of the energy companies.

They have slowly but but effectively infiltrated all of the groups, all of the environmental groups with their money, you know, they they fund their conferences, they donate to them, and they’re dictating the agenda. And they’re dumbing it down. I mean, the reason they don’t like me to speak is because I say it, you know, these, these people are serial killers. They have killed millions of people. Already, you know, most most of the really major problems we’re facing right now are really linked to to the what’s happened in the with climate change.

The you know, it’s it’s everywhere like the right now in Antelope Valley, we’re in the midst of a major operation to tear down their 6,000 of these illegal marijuana fields. You know, they They put this this cover over them. And they’re everywhere in LA County and San Bernardino County. And it’s all supported by the cartels. I mean, in there, they bring people in over the border to work them. And with these people have to promise to work for a year.

And if they know some of them have been killed, I mean, this is cartel be running these operations. And you know, they’re here they’re in our, in our, or in the Antelope Valley. But that’s because of climate change. It’s become not profitable to grow marijuana in Mexico, because it’s too hot, takes too much water. And so they had to move, they had to move the crops and they moved them into into California. And that’s just one example of it.

You know, the COVID the, if it didn’t come out of Wuhan lab, it would have come out. Because, you know, the the, the eco systems for bats and in a primates and you know, it was shrinking and shrinking and shrinking. And so there’s these, these diseases are becoming more and more prevalent, that we’re seeing a new potential, you know, pandemic, about every three years. If COVID had been SARS, that had a 30% mortality. It burned itself out. But this this could have been much worse. I keep telling people COVID is a dress rehearsal.

Well, this is fascinating. You’re listening to Unite and Heal America and KABC 790. My guest Mayor Rex Parris, City of Lancaster, we’ll be right back talking to Rex about a variety of topics. Look forward to having you back in just one minute.

You’re listening to KABC 790. Unite and Heal America with Matt Matern. My guest again, is Mayor Rex Parris, City of Lancaster, and Rex, you were talking about a number of different things. In the last segment, I wanted to just ask you a bit about some of the environmental projects the city of Lancaster has implemented since you’ve been there.

That’s my favorite topic. You know, once once I realized just what an existential threat this was, then what we set out to do was to create a template for other cities. You know, we have about 160,000 people in the city of Lancaster, which is a midsize city. But to make a template for other midsize cities that once people woke up, they they would know what to do. And they could do it quickly or at least faster than they would have been able to.

And a lot of it was pretty simple stuff, you know, like solar panels on on people’s roofs, it when I was when I first was elected, it took about six months to get a permit, you know, to put a solar panel on and that required one or two revisions, you know, of that whatever the plan was, as if anybody in the city understood solar panels in the first place.

The and so I just kind of issued a rule I said From now on, all solar panels have to be approved within an hour of submission. Nothing and so they did. It was not it was nothing bad happened. You know, and so that makes it a lot cheaper to install those panels because you’re not tying up money. You know, we we I went to China on several times. And I was trying to get BYD which is build your dreams is the name of the company in China. It’s one of the largest corporations in China. And they were planning to build a factory in California.

And so I kept talking to them and talking to them trying to get them to come to Lancaster and everybody thought I was wasting wasting my energy because you know Long Beach one of them San Francisco, one of them Portland wanted to Los Angeles, one of them and, but ultimately they chose us. And the reason they chose us is because I had called the president and said look, I want to build I want to I want to make an affordable and affordable Net Zero house that because they aren’t BYD makes most of the batteries in the world.

You know Duracell ever ready they’re actually made by BYD the end but it has to be affordable at that time anybody could do it, but it cost several million dollars, you know, to build a house where all the energy, all of the electricity you consumed, was created by the solar panels on the house. And it was quite revolutionary at the time. And so I met with them and KB Homes. That was the great thing about being the mayor, is you call a meeting and people show up. So we’re down on in the KB offices. And which was interesting in itself, because this was right after the 2008 collapse.

And they were on the edge of bankruptcy. But yet they still made the commitment that they would work with BYD engineers, and try to do this, try to create a house that was portable. Six months later, we flipped the switch. I mean, I had to wait permit fees. And but it was really interesting. That’s when I learned the permit problem is because their biggest concern was how long will it take to get this permitted? And so I looked at my watch and said,

How long do you want it to take? And, you know, quite honestly, we did stretch some rules, in regards to the approval of the equipment we were installing, because it was all new. You know, it’s never been done before. But six months later, we flipped the switch on that house. And now KB has several options as to energy efficiency that you’ve ordered, when you, you know, you buy the house.

And in the course of that, they were able to reduce the water used by the house by by over 50%. And they were able to reduce the gas by a third. You know, once you’ve got people working on it, and their innovative juices take off. It was quite revolutionary. And we were the first in that. And then we became the first city that all new houses have to be net zero.

And it really benefits the purchaser of the house if you’re going to live in it. Because imagine no electric bed that that would it’s the savings far out offset the additional cost. But most housing is new housing is bought by investors who want to rent the houses out. And so we have to change business models, you know, because the renter pays the electric bill that and you know, the purchaser doesn’t really care.

We really haven’t addressed those underlying problems yet. But, and I think 2024 2026 California, all new housing will be net zero. That means you can go off the grid. But though, that technology was created in Lancaster, the that’s incorrect, you know.

I’m sorry. I was just saying that’s an incredible work that you guys did in Lancaster to really set that template, like you said, so that it could be rolled out in other places.

Yeah, that’s the goal. And, you know, just the hits keep coming in. I like back then, you know, 10 years ago, we converted all of the public buildings to solar panels. And you know, all of the buildings, even the stadium, the Red Hawk stadiums are baseball stadium, all of it, over 98% of the electricity is produced by solar.

And you know, you do an exchange on the grid, because, you know, obviously at night you’re running the lights at the stadium and but you know, when we did that, we were really excited because we were able to drive the cost down to 15 cents a kilowatt. That’s what the lease is, thank God, those leases are coming to an end. Because we started our who, eventually we started our own energy company and that we buy and sell the power for the people in Lancaster.

Then we buy it and sell it all day long between four and six cents a kilowatt, gives you an idea of how much the energy companies over inflate these prices then, and a lot of obstacles like I wanted to convert the streetlights to LED lights. And Edison just put up all kinds of obstacles, and I remember meeting with them. And it was very frustrating but i i finally looked at the the Public Works person and I said, Neil, can I read tag their power poles? red tag means you shut him down.

And he thinks about it. He’s really a A very cerebral guy, and he thinks about any goes, Yeah, I think you can. And then certainly after that, they agreed to sell all of the power all of the streetlights back to us or to us. Because it turns out, we were paying like, not a huge amount of money for maintenance fees. So these lights, and the cost savings, we were able to buy them back, convert them to LEDs, lighting, have a centralized control of them, meaning, you know, we can, we can do all kinds of things, we did have a light show who we want.

And, but, you know, in emergency situations, you can you can like exits, you know, with them. And we’re even able to get a fee by turning them on during the day, too, because the sometimes you have to balance the grid, you know, and they’ll pay you to turn it on, turn your lights on, we’re able to do all of this, which savings just just by buying them back. Because you know, these, these energy companies rip off the consumers at every opportunity. It’s really quite shocking.

That is, I mean, it’s surprising, but not surprising that, that they’re doing this, the extent of it is what’s what it was surprised me how entrenched they are from going down to the light poles and to the you know, you just think that city lights on streets wouldn’t be a big money making opportunity. But they’ve turned it into one.

Yeah, maintenance fees. What kind of maintenance says that really, especially if you switch and that was the reason they were resisting the LEDs, once you go to LEDs, you don’t have to touch them for 20 years.

So we’re close to our break. But I wanted to tee up a couple of things that we can talk about when you come back when we come back from the break if how has the city of Lancaster implemented hydrogen technology into its efforts to reduce emissions?

And what does the city of Lancaster plan to do in the future to further implement hydrogen technology to further reduce emissions? Okay, good. We’ve got we’ve got about one minute left, maybe you can start on that answer. And then we’ll cut off our break somewhere midway into your answer.

Okay. You know, we we, we were first approached on the hydrogen by Bill Gross of IDEA Lab. And we previously worked with him on a you know, a reflective sunlight thermal project where you direct sunlight to this tower, and it heats the water, which runs the turbine and to produce electricity.

And he had a really innovative science that he was using, he was able to make the mirrors much smaller, and with the software kept those mirrors perfectly focused on the tower. But then, you know, the price of solar panels just plummeted. And so it was no longer cost effective. But he still had all that science.

And that was when hydrogen is cut off their racks and we’re gonna go to our break, but stay tuned, you’re listening to Unite and Heal America at KABC 790. Our guest again, Mayor Rex Parris and you’ll hear Rex talk a little bit more about this breakthrough technology of using solar and hydrogen to clean our planet.

You’re listening to Unite and Heal America and KABC 790. My guest again Mayor Rex Parris, City of Lancaster. Rex you were in the middle of telling us a bit about hydrogen and and how the city of Lancaster is using it to further clean up the environment in Lancaster in the state and ultimately around the on the planet.

Well, you know, you first have to recognize that hydrogen is the most efficient means of storing energy. And essentially, that’s all we’re concerned about, is how do you store this energy because we have all kinds of ways of creating it. But you need to store it. So when it’s there when you need to and you need to use it. And so but the problem with hydrogen is always well there’s lots of problems.

So one of the problems is is is it’ll corrode the the pipelines if you don’t you there’s a there’s a way to put a plastic coating in you know, you can just run this it’s called a pig and you run the pig through it, as it coats the pie I’ve been so that that problem has been resolved. But you still had the problem that you the footprint you left behind when you created hydrogen electrolysis, that is the primary way to do it was greater than the savings, you know, as far as the environmental footprint.

But then when, you know when solar panels came along, now you have a way to do solar panels that lead no foot, because electrolysis is the easiest way to do it. But there’s other ways to do it that came along the Bill Gross use those that mirror technology focuses on our tower instead of 200 feet up 40 feet up. And it keeps the canister up to 2000 degrees. And he’s able to split water vapor into hydrogen and oxygen in sufficient quantities to be profitable and sell both of them.

So Lancaster, we gave them the pilot project plan for free for five years to proof of concept. And that’s up and running. Now it’s running very efficiently. We’re also dealing with s two is the name of the company which they’re building a plant where you take any bio waste, you know, paper, plastic, and you can plastics normally not considered bio waste, but it’s essentially an oil based product and has the carbon. And that’s what you’re looking for.

You dump that six truckloads of this trash truck loads of this a day into it. It uses plasma torches and heats it up to 4000 degrees. And you’re able to split up the hydrogen. And it leaves behind this these carbon monoxide bricks that they’re able to use in agriculture. But it produces copious amounts of hydrogen that do that cell from that they about six, seven months ago, the council general for Japan called me up one day as we come down for lunch, which was kind of exciting, actually. It’s great lunch. And Japan has most of the patents for for fuel cells.

And that’s what Toyota, Toyota, you know, ultimately, battery powered cars are just a bridge. Ultimately, all cars are going to be powered by hydrogen powered fuel cells. And you can take these fuel cells and drop it into a Tesla, the Tesla weighs 1000 pounds less. So just imagine how fast that car becomes the but he was explaining to me, he said, you know, we learned from the auto industry years ago, that if you want to really capture the American market, you have to start in California.

And so we now have a system where we will soon sign a sister city relationship with Naomi, which is in the Fukushima district where you know that the nuclear plant melted down. They will be run the rebuilding the city and it’d be all hydrogen. The goal is to make Lancaster, totally hydrogen and to get rid of all natural gas. People don’t understand that, that natural gas is extremely. I mean, it’s just bad for you.

And that’s why California is phasing out gas stoves and all residential houses. It’s because over time, it causes enormous health problems because it’s not just methane. It’s benzene, it’s, it’s I mean, they the number of toxic chemicals in natural gas is huge. And that’s why they started calling it clean natural gas because it’s anything but clean.

But with the hydrogen, you can bleed that into the natural gas and make it much more efficient. That’s one way to use it because there’ll be a while before we can get away from natural gas power plants. You know, an example of the volatility of this is both the Porter Ranch episode where they poisoned 30,000 people. And now you have the Sun Valley Power Plant in LA where we’re three years this stuff was was copious amounts leaking into the community. And they kept it a secret they didn’t tell him and when it was discovered by me there was so much of it.

They just kicked NASA discovered it. The the head of DWP essentially said, Well, you know, that community had to bear the sacrifice. You know, they sacrificed a whole community. But you know, understand what that means. That means people develop emphysema. faster, it means asthma took off it, health consequences to the, to the coin, the area was just unbelievable.

And it was already an environmental disaster when this happened, but with hydrogen, we’re going to be able to get rid of all that. And you you can even, you know, we’re building an what’s called a digester at the landfill, where you take all the bile waste, you know, the grass, the leaves all that stuff, you throw it in it, and outcomes, methane, and compost, you take the methane, and you get a much better hydrogen project product because you make much more hydrogen out of it.

And we’ll convert that to hydrogen and also, but we anticipate in the next five years will be the center of California for hydrogen production. And hopefully, we will have moved powering the city over to it. But Toshiba is coming in, and they have these fuel cells that which is coincidentally, guess what the name of the fuel cells the RX two?

Well, anyway, you you literally plug those into your house, and it’ll power your house. It’ll power the hospital and the power Sioux City Hall is the first building we’re converting over. And, you know, the the next problem is going to be actually the distribution of the hydrogen to the, but you have the gas lines to do it, they work really well.

So it requires a partnership with Southern California gas. And like, no, go ahead, they’re starting to come around. Because they recognize, you know, the people are fed up. The governor has made it pretty clear, you better close Aliso Canyon, which is the major storage center, you have the Sun Valley problem, they’re going to eventually close that. It’s, you know, you cannot continually poison the population, and say, well, it’s just a little bit of poison.

And, and it, it’s the long term exposure. And that that is, you know, I mean, if you were to really measure the number of people that have died from just natural gas exposure, it’s, it’s in the millions, meaning they died sooner than they would have otherwise. Because it’s a it’s a slow process of attacking the DNA in your body. And eventually, it wins the battle. And all kinds of diseases result including cancers.

Well, I’m a big proponent of hydrogen, I’m on my second hydrogen car, I’ve got the new MRI, and I had the old MRI and you like it, I like it. I kind of liked the actually the first variety because it they you could push the accelerator and it would spin the wheels and it would peel out which you know, modern cars don’t do that anymore. But it’s a the new one drives well.

And it’s a fun car. But yeah, I’m convinced that the hydrogen technology exceeds that of the battery technology. Because with if everybody was driving around electric cars, we’re gonna have millions 10s of millions and ultimately, billions of batteries to dispose of, which is a gargantuan problem, besides all the mining related to all that, so making those batteries have a huge footprint. But, you know, once this hydrogen technology took off, it’s the first time I’ve thought we have a chance of survival. And then in understand why, why, you know, the effects are so astronomical building the wall.

And, you know, separating us from Mexico today is really a stupid idea because we need the labor force. I mean, we absolutely need that labor force. But in the next 15 years, the projections for the temperatures of Central America and southern Mexico in northern South America are such that 400 million people are going to have to emigrate because it will be uninhabitable.

Once that once the temperature gets to 120 degrees, your body can no longer compensate by sweating and cooling itself. It is uninhabitable and then you also have the hurricane issues with as all of this happens. So where are those 400 million people gonna go? You know, my biggest fear is that Canada’s going to Canada will build the wall. It.

But I mean, these are major threats coming our way. And the rest of the world, you know, there’s this massive migration of people that’s coming. Many of those countries have nuclear weapons, they’re not just going to disappear. You know, the, like the not everybody knows the Nile River Valley, where all the agriculture for Egypt and you know, it fed, it fed the Roman Empire, right? That’s an alluvial plain, and within the next 20 years, that is disappearing.

The truly, truly shocking the level of problems that we’re going to be facing in the near future. Well, you’re listening to Unite and Heal America and KABC 790, Ttalking with Rex Parris, Mayor the city of Lancaster, and we’ll be right back talking to Rex.

You’re listening to Unite and Heal America and KABC 790. My guest today, Mayor Rex Parris, City of Lancaster, and we’re talking with Rex about all the innovation that has taken place on the environmental front.

And I want to ask you further about how the public private partnership between the city and various governmental, you know, private entities that you’ve talked about? What are those benefits that have, you know, a nerd to the to the city outside of what you would normally think, particularly related to say the COVID crisis?

Well, you know, once the rest of the community bought into the idea that there’s a real existential threat, and that we really have the power to do something about it, you know, it’s going to be solved on the on the municipal level, it’s not going to be solved by Washington, Washington can help fund it can help us.

But you know, President Biden doesn’t issue building permits, I do, you know, it’s going to be solved on a municipal level. And once the community bought into that, and then saw the benefits, I mean, we make, we’re not having any financial problems in Lancaster, even with COVID, because of the amount of money these energy projects bring into us, like, every one of those projects, now, we take a piece of the action, for lack of a better word to say, which goes into the community, coppers, the once once they saw that, it kind of opened up everybody’s mind to the idea that one, we’re in this together, we all have to work towards this.

It’s not going to cost any nobody’s going to have to give up anything necessarily. No one’s going to have to make major sacrifices, once that happened. And all of a sudden, there became a sense of community we’d never seen before, and a sense of working together we’d never seen before. And when COVID came along, we didn’t have any territorial issues. You know, it was, this is a community problem, we will solve it as a community.

And, you know, it wasn’t solved in board meetings. It wasn’t solved in city council meetings. It was a solved by the stakeholders and decision makers, doing whatever was necessary. And you know, we had the lowest death rate, but the most vulnerable population, it but it was, NASA was the aircraft industry, it was Virgin Galactic. It was all of these groups, the hospital, which is public hospital, with a public, you know, board of directors, all of us just came together.

And there was this informal leadership is, you know, nobody elected me to run this thing. We just did it know, when they needed city help, we had city employees there, nobody got a bill for it. You know, we were we were saving people’s lives as fast as we could. But I don’t think that would have happened.

That’s an amazing story of really community coming together. And that’s really what we need across the country. And that’s kind of what the purpose of this show is, is talking about how we can work together. And when we do, we can solve these problems. And Bill Gates talks about grain premiums for certain environmentally friendly type products.

And what you’re talking about is kind of revolutionary. It’s it’s almost like green surpluses. So we’ve got you’re taking it From not paying extra from the green product, but you’re actually making money and creating new opportunities that are even more beneficial for the community than the prior dirty solution.

So that it was there was actually surprising benefit, we thought it was going to cost. We didn’t know if we were going to be able to afford it. It was the exact opposite of that. But the biggest the biggest benefit was there is a feeling of innovation up there and willing to take risks that other communities don’t have, you know, like in the city of Lancaster.

The default and we talk about it, the default is to say yes, unless there’s a reason to say no. And every other city, the default of the city staff is to say no, because nobody gets in trouble for saying no.

You know, tell us a little bit about maybe your political future. You know, we saw Mayor Pete budaj Edge come out of a city that was smaller, I think, than Lancaster and run for the President of the United States. How about a president Parris in 2024? Is that a possibility?

Not a possibility. You know, there was a there, I’m a Republican, and there was a move to get me to try to run for governor in that recall, but I don’t have any interest. You know, my interest is, is saving the planet, and saving the planet for my children, for my grandchildren. It’s not to play politics in Sacramento, and you know, it takes for her to do anything up there.

It takes, you gotta please, so many people. It’s, it’s not for me, and I have other interests too, you know, I am involved in a biotech now that I think is going to change the face of medicine.

I will tell us a little bit about ’06.

I’m also 69. You know, what? It’s not I have no desire.

But tell us a little bit about the biotech company that you’re working on. Arthritis?

Well, somebody very close to me has a lung disease, and it’s a progressive disease. And it’s result again at fibrotic. lung problem. pulmonary fibrosis is the closest thing I could explain to it. And so, you know, I’m looking for, for a way to stop this in to solve this. And that eventually led me to these scientists at USC, that they every every indication is, as they have a series of drugs in the pipeline, that’s going to stop fibrosis, it, it stops il interleukin six, which causes the inflammation and is killing people in COVID.

And it came out of their their attempt to get rid of osteoarthritis. And at least in every large animal, they put it in, they stop osteoarthritis and heal the joint and the cartilage begins to regrow. And, more importantly, it just the smallest amount into the joint stops pain. Now think of what that would do with the opioid crisis. And they should be in human trials, within six to eight months, my wife and I funded the, the, the animal studies, up until now, for all of it.

It’s the most exciting thing I’m involved. The life extension that’s involved in that, and quality of life is truly astronomical. Every autoimmune disease, you know, they have some, some elements that are very, all the same. And this addresses those, that means Ms. It for one, you know, any auto immune disease is is Crohn’s disease, all of these things. Rheumatoid arthritis. There is every reason to believe there’s a solution.

Now that’s pretty revolutionary, because we know that autoimmune diseases have been exploding over the last 50 years. So it’s not it’s not a small group of people that are affected by these diseases. We’re talking about millions and 10s of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people are affected by these diseases.

Yeah, and it’s getting worse in you know, the reason for that is the disruption of the DNA and the cells. You know, you can only you can only myself so many times before it becomes a permanent problem. But you know, the toxins that we breathe every day, they have a cumulative effect. It’s over time. It looks If I have every reason to believe that those things will be a thing of the past, within the next five to 10 years, at least, I know it’s a thing of the past and mice.

And I know it’s arthritis is a thing of the past for dogs, because we have the study showing it, you know. So there’s no reason to believe that it’s not going to work with people, especially the lungs, the lungs of mice and people very similar. The large animal studies with arthritis, very similar joint structure.

It’s that’s a, that’s very exciting stuff. And, you know, it’s amazing work that you’re doing out on the front lines on so many different things. And I just asked you, as we wrap up the session is, you know, what are the things that you would encourage those of us in the community to go out and do and things that you’ve done and how we can participate? And what are the next steps for you and how we can work to solve these problems?

Well, I think people should get involved in their municipal government and municipal politics, but it should be with a goal. It is. We’re trying to save the planet here. What are you doing, if you’re not doing it, it’s time for you to get out of office. You have to empower the elected officials to to make difficult decisions. And it turned out they weren’t difficult. It turned out it increased my popularity. I mean, I win every election with about 70% of the vote.

There’s nobody else and California winning, you know, re elections with that. And it’s not because I’m such a wonderful person. It’s because our city is accomplishing such wonderful things. But it there’s risks involved. You know, COVID when when I was insisting people wear masks or go to jail back in March, you know of last year, people wanted to hang me. Turns out we ended up with the lowest death rate we need.

Rex I hate to cut you off. I’d love to have you back on the program. You’ve been listening to Unite and Heal America and KABC 790 Mayor Rex Parris, City of Lancaster. It’s been a privilege to have you on the show Rex doing so much great work out there in the community.

It’s really an inspiration for all of us and hopefully other mayor’s around the state and around the country and around the world will look at the example that you’ve you’ve led in in Lancaster and follow those examples to help us save this planet.