A Climate Change with Matt Matern Climate Podcast

You’re listening to A Climate Change, this is Matt Matern, your host, and I’ve got a great guest on the program today. This is going to be a different type of episode. We’re covering the UN speech of President Trump. It was one of the craziest speeches of all time. He went in there denying climate change, and he reached a new low, I think, by being and it’s so incredibly farcical that I think it just lends itself to comedy. We brought in a great comedian, Bill Kessler, to comment on this. Bill’s a writer, and he’s performed sketch comedy for years at iOS.

I’ve written jokes for many celebrities. Have piles of unproduced screenplays that line the walls of my home, and it’s nice the new space you’ve got, like us, we’re in Matt’s new bomb shelter he put in.

Yeah, I especially for you, Bill, thought I would bring you in. We’re upgrading. We’re upgrading all around so Apocalypse chic, well, you know, with Trump coming, Apocalypse is you have to be ready. That’s what I was going for. Yeah, yeah. So here we are. And did you listen to the speech?

You know, I heard the whole thing, wow, every minute, top to bottom, and it haunts my dreams.

It is kind of comedy gold, because it is so insanely over the top, it shocks the conscience.

My understanding is that these speeches are normally around 15 minutes long for usually even presidents. This was, I believe it was an hour long, and it was kind of like it was like going on a Tinder date with schizophrenic who who works in multi level marketing only with kind of more word salad and bullshit, if that’s possible, but it gives it, it gives you a little bit of the flavor that’s that’s about it.

I think that that hammers it pretty close. So he talked about a tremendous range. I think this was his probably most clear yet unclear statement about the environment, really, since 2016 or 2015, brilliant at doing really clear statements that are deeply unclear. And I think that’s a skill that he that this is, this is the precipice of right now.

Right he, well, I recall looking for his statements about the environment. He would say it’s a hoax from time to time, or he blame it on Chinese to have to go rally, to rally and clip this all together to find it. But he just created the super cut for us.

Oh my god, all is all in one place, all in one place. Yeah, that’s that is the value of this speech is because we got the entire theory of Trump on the environment all in one place in front of the UN so everybody got to see it something.

Someone says something quite this moronic. You wouldn’t even bother to counter it because it’s so you know, on its face, illogical. You just walk away. But unfortunately, this is the President of the United States, and it wasn’t at the Iowa State Fair or something.

No, the UN, or a guy out front of the Starbucks just, you know, talking to a garbage candidate. This is the President of the United States. So we’re gonna go through it and just get a few best ofs and and see what we come up with.

So let’s start us off with wind energy. I think you want to run the wind energy.

Yeah, let’s, let’s. Let’s go ahead and go into one of his all time favorite hobby horses, windmills.

Oh, he hates windmills. He just hates them. And I think in part because there were some wind mills by his golf course, and this is in Scotland, and that just set him off.

You’re applying too much emotional logic. He hates windmills. Let’s let’s take a listen to the to his loathing of windmills.

Energy is another area where the United States is now thriving like never before. We’re getting rid of the falsely named renewables, by the way, they’re a joke, they don’t work, they’re too expensive, they’re not strong enough to fire up the plants that you need to make your country great. The wind doesn’t blow those big windmills are so pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate, and they have to be rebuilt all the time, and they start to rust and rot. Most expensive energy ever conceived, and it’s actually energy. You’re supposed to make money with energy, not lose money.

You lose money. The governments have to sub. It as you can’t put them out without massive subsidies, and most of them are built in China. And I give China a lot of credit, they build them, but they very few wind farms. So why is it that they build them and they send them all over the world, but they barely use them? You know, they use coal, they use gas, they use almost anything, but they don’t like wind, but they sure as hell like selling the windmills.

So we just watched that clip regarding the wind thing and him denigrating China. And during the coverage, they put the cameras on the Chinese delegation. At that time, it looked like two teenagers from the Model UN China sent like 216 year olds to watch Trump’s speech. So, you know, they, this is the seriousness which China takes Trump. They, they sent their Model UN 16 year olds to watch Trump. I missed that.

Bill Kessler 5:53
I saw Germany, and he looked like he wasn’t happy. But I think if we just zero in on what his core claim is here, right? Like, there’s a lot going on there, but the biggest claim is that he’s asserting that China makes windmills but does not use windmills. That’s however, nine seconds of Google searching, you can figure out that China uses more windmills than anyone in the world. Yes, they use more wind power than anyone in the world. Is it the opposite of what…

He’s well, that’s what, you know. You take a Trump statement, you invert it, and then you end up with the truth sometimes. So he should have said, like, this is opposite day. This is opposite day before he said the thing, but he just pulled the fact out of his prodigious ass that China doesn’t use windmills. They use more windmills than anyone.

Well, then Ruby. Why is ruby red? Iowa getting 60% of their energy from wind, and Iowa’s electricity prices are below the national average, significantly below they I think it’s 15 to 16 cents per kilowatt hour. The national average is at 20% so Iowa farmers are making a ton of money off of this, because they get like three to eight was eight to $33,000, per win windmill on their farmland. So they’re making money. They’re getting cheaper electricity. Trump lies again. He’s like, it’s ridiculous. I mean, nobody in their right mind should believe what this guy’s saying, even old Senator Chuck Grassley from Iowa, he wants to have wind power continue. He was trying to lobby the White House to continue the wind subsidies to encourage windmills in Iowa because it’s a good deal for them.

And why is Trump the con man telling the world that wind is the most expensive energy ever conceived because the threat to big oil, because that’s where his donors come from. He got a half a billion dollars from the oil companies, and they have an existential threat. If wind works and then it can power electric vehicles, the oil companies are out of business. So of course, he’s got it. He’s got a job to do as the hitman, essentially, for the oil companies, put renewable power out of business, because that’s their best that’s their last best hope, and the death of hope for the rest of us.

So one other thing about his wind power riff was he just goes on, he says, the wind doesn’t blow. I mean, that’s a direct Trump quote from the UN I mean, kindergarteners would flunk out of kindergarten if they said something that stupid. So, but this is the President of the United States saying the wind doesn’t blow.

You know, when I was in kindergarten, I they had a whole thing where you had to zip your own coat, and I was the only one in class who couldn’t do it. But they did graduate me, and I was aware that the wind blows, you might take it.

Okay so you were able to get out with the zipper issue.

But now was it was, you know, I got through kindergarten. Was it touching me? I excelled at finger painting nap time I was killing it, yeah? Zipper operation, no. Well, session go.

How’s it? How’s it going? Now, have you mastered that skill?

I’ve switched to button fly.

Yeah, well, that’s good. That’s good, yeah, I unleash massive energy production and such historic executive orders to hunt for oil, but we don’t have to do much hunting, because we have the most oil of any nation anywhere, oil and gas in the world. And if you add coal, we have the most of any nation in the world, clean. I call it clean, beautiful coal. You can do things today with coal that you couldn’t have done. 10 years ago, 15 years so I have a little standing order in the White House. Never used the word coal. Only use the words clean, beautiful coal. Sounds much better, doesn’t it?

So, Bill, I do not want to have you ever say coal, ever again. No, it’s clean, beautiful coal.

That’s it. I mean, it’s the you will be canceled. You will this show will be shut down. If you say coal, the “C” word, is still the most polluting and the dirtiest source of energy that we have. It spews out sulfur dioxide, and I know, probably all sorts of dioxides and causes lung cancer. However, we’re going to solve this problem today, because there’s a standing order that from now on is referred to as clean, beautiful coal, and that pretty much wipes it out.

And I think in that spirit, I’ve have a standing order myself that from now on famine, no one is to just call it famine around me anymore. You call it sparkling, beautiful famine. Look at that. We just solved famine.

Wow, Matt, is it true. Let’s not let the longest we’re at it. Let’s solve some more problems. You know. How about wildfires? Instead of wildfires, we’re gonna call them warming, inspiring wildfires.

Matt, we’ve solved famine, we’ve solved wildfires, homelessness. From now on, I have a standing order in my presence anyone in my household is not to call so use the word homelessness. We call it nomadic, adventurous homelessness. Okay, that’s problem solving. Homelessness, famine, wildfires, off the map. Let’s keep solving problems.

Okay? Hurricanes, gentle, nurturing hurricanes.

Matt, you’re a problem solver. Riots, from now on, they will be called spirited, expressive riots.

I will never refer to them as anything other than that. That’s it. Tornadoes, swirling, playful tornadoes and war.

Matt, war is to be called thrilling, blissful war. No one is ever to call the war and and think of all these horrors and pestilence and death.

No, it’s thrilling, beautiful war.

Matt, well, let’s settle some more problems. Moving on. We’ve solved war and famine.

I don’t know if Pete Hegseth is gonna let you make war anything other than manly, and I think that could be a problem, okay, manly? What’s your other adjective? Manly? Destructive. War. Destructive is way too negative. Moving on. What else are we selling? Mosquitoes. Charming, helpful.

Mosquitoes. Death. Matt. From now on, death will be referred to as whimsical, delightful death.

That’s what I’ve been thinking about it for a while, but now I’m glad you put a name on it. That’s it.

Here’s a quiz, Matt, what is famine called?

Oh, geez, it’s sparkling, beautiful. Famine. Sparkly, beautiful. And coal. Coal is clean, beautiful. Coal. War. We haven’t settled. I hate to be a naysayer, but this clean, beautiful coal is actually more expensive than wind and solar. Is that a problem?

But there’s no adjectives on wind and solar. The coal is clean and beautiful. Wind is just wind and some, sometimes it doesn’t blow. Matt, oh, it doesn’t blow at all. Solar, oh, it doesn’t blow at all.

Yeah, the wind doesn’t blow. You heard it from the President of the United States. The wind doesn’t blow.

And what are the adjectives for wind? Blustery, annoying wind.

Yeah, the Windy City. We come from the Windy City. Oh, they’re gonna have to probably rename that city. Well, he’s bringing in the troops, and maybe they’ll do a name change or rebranding of the Windy City, because it’ll be no longer windy anymore there.

Well, yeah, because the wind doesn’t blow, buddy, the wind does not blow.

Years ago, in the 1920s and the 1930s they said global cooling will kill the world. We have to do something. Then they said global warming will kill the world. But then it started getting cooler. So now they could just call it climate change, because that way they can’t miss it’s climate change, because if it goes higher or lower, whatever the hell happens. There’s climate change.

It’s the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world. In my opinion, predictions made by the United Nations and many others, often for bad reasons, were wrong. They were made by stupid people. If you don’t get away from this green scam, your country is going to fail. And I’m really good at predicting things. You know, they actually said during the campaign they had a hat, the best selling hat, Trump was right about everything.

You know, what proves whether someone is right about everything is whether or not they have a hat that sells really well.

That says that. That that is pretty good evidence. Yeah, it’s hard to it’s hard to deny. It’s almost an irretrie, irreparable presumption. If you have a hat that sells well, that means it’s true. Yeah, yeah. I think the braggadocio on the stage of the UN of saying he’s got a trucker hat that sells well, that proves his point that he is right about everything is well, is question is, what the kids say?

They say it’s next level. That is next level. I mean, this is not worth actually doing. But just to make the point that global warming, and I wrote it down, global warming is the long term net increase in the world’s temperature over time.

Right? Climate change is the atmospheric phenomena that result from that it doesn’t mean in any given place that it isn’t hotter or warmer on any given day. Right?

Net effect, I feel that it’s hotter.

Absurd. This has to be said out loud. It’s like in the movie Billy Madison, he gives this big speech, and then the cinema classic Billy Madison, starring Adam Sandler, oh, it’s the classic. And at the end, it’s comedy writer. His name is Jim Downey, and then he counters him with like that is the most I don’t remember the quote, Mr. Matern, what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response Were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

I just wish that Trump would have finished his remarks and then Jim Downey would have approached the podium and just said that I think Jim Downey should follow Trump across the country, and that it should be a law. There should be a rule order that, and then say that whenever it’s applicable, which is probably every eight minutes.

Oh, I love the thing about the con job. It’s the greatest con job in the history. This is from the leading con man in the world. So he does have an expert opinion. So when he says it’s the greatest con job in the world. Don’t you think he’s jealous? Because, I mean, he’s the guy who created Trump University. So you’re thinking, you know, that was a pretty good con job.

He’s just so, but this isn’t a con job. It’s just the logic. Is this weird? It almost sounds like a like a comedic bit to it of like they called it global warming, but then it got colder, so then they had to change the name, and that’s how they get you. That’s the con job. It’s like, such an absurd bait and switch, bait and switch logic. It’s like, you know, hey, they, they, they said it’s gonna rain today, so don’t forget your umbrella, but then it was sunny, so they just called it a parasol. They’re a bunch of con artists, these guys.

They’re con artists the bastards you know, Bill, I like to be authentic, and I don’t want to pretend. I want to be as real as I can. Sometimes I have a little bit of imposter syndrome talking about the environment because I didn’t go to school to study about the environment. That’s not my specialty. I’m a lawyer, but when Trump gets to talk about the environment, and he clearly hasn’t read anything about the environment, you feel like a genius. I feel like, hey, if he gets to talk about the environment, I should be able to get to talk about the environment.

Yeah, it creates a permission structure for morons, right? He has, not the moron.

Hey, he has a kindergartening understanding and vocabulary about the environment. And I’m somewhere in at least the later seventh, eighth grade, maybe something like that. So, yeah, right. So I’m not an expert, but Trump’s kind of a low bar. So examples of that, it’s all a hoax. He’s saying it’s all a hoax. Well, let’s break that down. If it’s a hoax. His own Secretary of Energy just recently said that climate change is real. So they can’t even get their story straight in the Cabinet Room, one of the guys saying, Chris Wright, is saying, Oh, it’s it’s something real. Climate change is real.

I’m gonna put a clock on how long this Secretary of Energy is gonna last.

But he then out of his other side of his mouth, he says, well, it’s not that big of a problem. You know, it’s real, but don’t worry about it, we’ll still spew as much oil and gas as we humanly can do, because it’s not a big deal. So climate change is real, but it doesn’t cause any problems. That’s his point. Why is then Exxon and all the big oil companies are saying climate change is real. Oil, and they’re changing some of their practices related.

I’ll tell you why they’re woke. They’re woke.

They all went woke on us, yeah. And then tell us how does Why is Saudi Arabia and the Middle East oil producing region. They’re also getting real about climate change.

So you’re saying you agree with everything Saudi Arabia says, Jesus crazy, yeah.

Saudi Arabia is producing a lot of producing a lot of solar energy. They’re doing major solar installations because they realize that oil is a dying industry. So why would they be doing this if they want to continue doing the oil business, tell me that President Trump, why? Why do you think that is if it’s a hoax.

Maybe you haven’t heard of clean, beautiful coal.

Saudi Arabia needs to start importing some of that clean, beautiful coal. They they don’t have clean beautiful coal. Yeah, I think they only have that dirty oil stuff, yeah, and so now they’re relying upon sunshine. They’re going down the toilet. That’s all there is to it.

It’s a nightmare in the United States. We have still radicalized environmentalists, and they want the factories to stop. Everything should stop. No more cows. We don’t want cows anymore. I guess they want to kill all the cows. They want to do things that are just unbelievable. And you have it too. But you know, we have a border strong, and we have a shape, and that shape doesn’t just go straight up. That shape is amorphous when it comes to the atmosphere. And if we had the most clean air. And I think we do. We have very clean air with the cleanest air we’ve had in many, many years.

But the problem is that other countries, like China, which has air that’s a little bit rough, it blows. And no matter what you’re doing down here, the air up here tends to get very dirty, because it comes in from other countries where their air isn’t so clean. The primary effect of these brutal green energy policies has not been to help the environment, but to redistribute manufacturing and industrial activity from developed countries that follow the insane rules that are put down to polluting countries that break the rules and are making a fortune.

I agreed with one thing. He said there what? What was that the whole thing is crazy.

The whole thing is crazy, okay, but as he describes this air situation, now I understand why he was so upset about the teleprompter not working, because clearly he wasn’t able to read his speech and he was just blathering incoherently. So I’d be upset too if I was up at the UN and I had a really well written speech and and I then had to wing it, and I didn’t know what the hell I was talking about, and it went really poorly in front of the UN it’s probably upsetting, because this couldn’t possibly have been actually a written speech, given the quality of that about the the amorphous air that goes up. You don’t think that some that that went through like, multiple editing channels.

I would hope not, but it maybe it did. Maybe it did. Do you think the speech writers at the White House are really that bad? I mean, how do you how do you get to be a Trump speech writer? I mean, like, what’s the kindergarten? What’s the vetting process? Yeah, what’s the vetting process?

I think, and try to stick with me here, if you can follow me. But I think that whole of more that section, it sounds to me more like someone to try and it’s not. It doesn’t sound like he’s talking about the environment. It sounds like a speech that someone would give when they’re trying to deny that they’re the one that farted on an elevator, like he’s saying. No, see, it wasn’t me. It’s it’s the shape. Yes, it, it doesn’t go straight up. It’s the air it blows. It’s sometimes from China, the amorphous blowing from China. And then the environments, they deny it, but in my mind, he who denies it, supplies it something like that.

I think what he got mixed up with is somehow, Kid earlier, one of his speech writers, was trying to explain to them that he didn’t make that he was the one who farted in the elevator, yeah, and then he it went into his notes app because he was recording it. And then somehow that got cut and pasted. You know, these phones are That. That probably is a reason. It’s a leading theory. That’s, that’s a reasonable explanation, more sense than anything else we heard in that five minute clip. Or was that five minutes? I think it was about 12 seconds, but it felt, it felt like five minutes.

Yeah, right. Right, but you know, if there was any logic to it, and this is stretching, but I’m going to stretch for a second here, he kind of admits that pollution does travel around the world, and that maybe, if you follow this logic, that all of the nations should cut down on their pollution, that would be my logical implication of China’s polluting and their pollutions coming here. We should insist, hey, China cut their pollution and and the US cuts their pollution because we are historically the biggest polluter in the history of the world, so we all have to cut our pollution. But that would be logical, if you had a lie.

Think you’re right. I think that’s what he meant. And it’s so nice to end on such a hopeful, beautiful message from our American president, yes, can someone play the national anthem? I’d like to stand and salute?

Yeah, well, there’s a standing order at the White House that this is the new pledge. Yeah, this is a new pledge. We’re pledging allegiance to Trump and whatever it stands for, and Trump Inc, and the meme coin, One Meme coin under god indivisible from Trump University, with justice for all, or something like that.

May God have mercy on our souls.

The entire globalist concept of asking successful industrialized nations to inflict pain on themselves and radically disrupt their entire societies must be rejected completely and totally, and it must be immediate. That’s why in America, I withdrew from the fake Paris Climate Accord where, by the way, America was paying so much more than every country. Others weren’t paying. China didn’t have to pay until 2030 Russia was given an old standard that was easy to meet, 1990 standard for the United States, we’re supposed to pay, like a trillion dollars.

And I said, this is another scam. The fact is, United States has been taken advantage of by the world for many, many years, but not any longer, as you probably noticed, I unleashed massive energy production and signed historic executive orders to hunt for oil, but we don’t have to do much hunting, because we have the most oil of any nation anywhere, oil and gas in the world. And if you add coal, we have the most of any nation in the world.

So now you have the branding of Trump on the fake Paris Climate Accord.

I just like to note that at the very end of that, he said, if you add coal, but he did not say, if you add clean, beautiful coal. Oh, and I think that was a violation.

Yeah, that was a violation of the order. You know, he’s in trouble for that one. And if he was supposed to tell the truth. He’s in violation of that, because he said the USA was supposed to pay a trillion dollars on the Paris Climate Accord. There’s no such language in the Paris Climate Accord. And that I can state definitively, because I actually read the thing. And it’s not that long. It’s very amorphous. And the pro it’s like the air in China, right?

It’s very amorphous. But does it go straight up? It goes straight up, but sideways, then it moves. It’s full of so many holes, and it’s like Swiss cheese. So the Paris Climate Accord commits the US to practically nothing.

Okay, that’s, that’s the, do we give money to anything in the Paris Climate.

I don’t think there is a specific amount, amount that we have to give under the Paris Climate Accord. So it’s like a pledge. It’s a pledge that we will reduce our emissions. That’s my understanding of it. And so we said that we would reduce our emissions by, I think it was 2030 or 2030 20. I think 2030 so it does not have any monetary penalty associated with it. Joe Biden did pledge to give something to this climate fund to help nations that are poor and were adversely affected by the climate. I think he pledged maybe 11 billion. Congress only authorized, like a billion, and I think Trump canceled payment on that, that promise, so we haven’t paid a dime, or maybe we paid a billion dollars, given our level of pollution, that’s a drop in the bucket as to the damage that has been caused. So Trump, again is wrong on that front.

I believe there was something subsequent to the fake Paris Climate Accord in which developed nations made amorphous pledges to give money to help poor nations, but basically the rich nations promise like. A penny on the dollar, if that or maybe a fraction of a penny on the dollar compared to the damages caused. So it’s not they’re not gonna do dollars. They’re gonna convert it from whatever their currency.

That probably is true. Yes, is true. But Trump lies again about what the hell is going on with the Paris Climate Accords and and, of course, most people aren’t going to read that crazy stuff. I mean, who has read the Paris Climate Accords? Only people were crazy enough to run for president have done that. And I thought it was kind of people who have run for president, but not people who actually are president.

Yeah, I would bet you dollars to donuts he’s never read the Paris Climate Agreement, even though it’s not that long. I think it was only five pages or something. It’s pretty, pretty short. It’s a breezy, fun read, though I have heard that he doesn’t even read the two page briefings that he’s given every day by like the CIA, because those are just like, too long to to so they give them to him every night, and the seals are never broken on those on those books, because he doesn’t open them up.

Oh, wow. Well, because he knows, he knows more than all those experts combined without studying anything. Yeah, Trump was right about everything. It’s one of the best selling hats. That’s how we know it’s true.

So Bill, I’m thinking to myself, I’m like, Why does Trump lie so blatantly? Is it to get his followers to forget that the truth matters, that honesty matters, that playing by the rules matter, that once the rules don’t matter, the laws don’t matter. The Constitution doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is what Trump says, and Trump is right about everything. So then, just like the hat says, We can disregard the Constitution, because Trump said, fill in the blank. That’s enough.

This is your theory as to why do you you think that he knows these are lies?

Oh, I think he I think he must. I’m gonna give him. Let’s grant him that amount of intelligence.

I don’t know. This is where we disagree. Okay, I think Trump believes what he’s saying.

I don’t know. I think he’s a he’s a bigger con.

I don’t think Trump knows the difference between truth and something that I Intuit. He just thinks I’m a common sense guy. Whatever you’re saying, he isn’t like the environment isn’t going to affect this guy. He lives in a paved existence. I don’t think. Do you think Trump has ever been camping? Do you think he’s ever sat and looked at a tree and said to himself, wow, tree. No, he hasn’t. That’s beautiful tree. He just he’s been in a limo, and then he walked through on onto concrete, into a building full of marble, and then with golf a lot.

Come on, golf courses is probably the closest to nature he’s ever been. But golf courses are not nature. Golf courses are like man carving out of something that’s vaguely there’s grass involved, right? But it’s like they’re probably, I’d have to probably environmental scourge a golf course, but I’d say, you’re saying he’s a pathological liar to the to the extent I can’t tell the difference between truth and lie.

At any point, his lying has seeped deep into his neural substrate, and he no longer knows the difference between what is real and what is Trump. And those two things have merged into one macro reality, a hellscape under which all of us now live.

Well, I’m kind of taking a different take on it, that He lies to stay in power and because he had this help, this is a means to the end which the end is control and staying well, I thought you meant the apocalypse or the apocalypse. I don’t think he cares about the apocalypse, that that doesn’t bother him. What matters to him is staying in power and being able to control the environment his his environment. You know, staying out of jail that I don’t think what we said are mutually exclusive.

I think they’re both true.

Okay, well, may God have mercy on our souls indeed.

Thank you very much, Bill, for being on the show was great fun playing around with you on this, this incredible event, this UN speech of President Trump laying it down about the environment.

I call it President Trump’s brain diarrhea. That we all got to just swim in and that, if that’s nothing sounds more fun than that.

Well, you know, we got a chance to talk about clean, beautiful coal, which is going to be powering our nation. And even though it’s the dirtiest, most expensive power source that we have in the country, we’re going to be using more of that and less of clean wind and solar, because he likes clean, beautiful coal. That’s that’s the way it’s going. Yeah, he likes oil companies and he likes lying.

Thank you, everybody for joining us. This was an amazing conversation with Bill Kessler, a lot of fun, and we’re gonna cut out some of the darkest, weirdest parts.

I hope so.

Brian in the studio is an amazing producer, and he will cut the crap out of this episode, or else, we’re in big trouble

Yeah.

But it was great, everybody. I think, I think you’re gonna enjoy this one, so let us know how you felt. Tune back into the next one. We’ll probably have bill back on again, because this was so much fun.

I would love that. That would be great.

Learn more about our work at A Climate Change and how you can help us reach our goal planting 30,000 trees in the Amazon this year. Visit aclimatechange.com don’t forget to subscribe to our podcast on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. If you like this episode, please share it with a friend. See you next time.